Csc170 003 ethics debate results:
Ethics
Debate on Facebook
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PRO won -
Adelphi should participate in facebook |
70.588% |
Why:
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Given Answers |
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becuase its a service that could help people
break the ice and become friens with people and see
the interest that they share |
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The
argument on how this is a free country. |
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I am pro
Adelphi participating in facebook because like
Michael Neiss argued in the disscussion
board, only the people you allow as your friends can see information your
profile so your information is not everywhere. Also because we are college
students and we should use common sense when
it come to talking to people on facebook and know
not to try to meet that person due to the fact thatit
is unsafe. |
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Adelphi
should participate in Facebook because it becomes a
part of a national connection of universities and colleges. Privacy
should not be an issue because there are many choices a member is
given to privatize certain information in their profile. Facebook is a personal choice. Every student can chose whether or not to have an account and whether to privatize
it. Therefore the arguements about security
issues did not sway my vote. |
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i voted that way
because facebook is an option to students to
participate. if they feel it is wrong then
they should not make a face book. |
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Even though
I was on to Pro side of facebook that is not the
only reason I voted that way. I believe that peope
made very good points. It is a free country and we should be able to do
what we want. I believe that people should be able to use facebook
and if THEY decide to exploit themselves by tagging pictures of themselves
that may have negative effects on their reputation than they have no one to
blame but themselves! But I also believe that they shouldn't let students
have facebook and then say that student-athletes
should not have facebook. Being a student-athlete
at Adelphi. I do not agree with this. Like I said before it is the
persons decision what pictures are on there and what information they post! |
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I
think that it is Ok for Adelphi to participate in facebook
because when you are in college, in my opinion, you are an adult. Even though
people are still immature when they are 18-22 years old, you are supposed to
be able to learn independance and facebook allows us to do so. Michale
Neiss says that you have a choice and can allow
only the people you want to allow to see your profile and that is a reason
why it isn't too revealing and shouldn;t
really be an issue. Angela Martin brought up the social aspect and I agree
that it is definitely a way to make friends and easier to be more open to
meeting your peers. |
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I was swayed to vote for regulating facebook
because of the safety issues involved. Facebook
allows students to connect with fellow classmates but it also poses the risks
for people who have bad intentions to connect with them as well. |
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Angela
Martin - There
is good and bad in anything. Just because certain people might be
tagged in photos of bad behavior does not leave a good arguement
in why a college should not participate in Facebook.
The kids should not be behaving like that in the first place especially if
they are under age. Just because you are an athlete does not make you
any better or worse then the next student. Everyone should be able to
do what they want and if that means by making a bad name for themseleves then that is their problem. Everyone
has to grow up sometime |
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Someone
posted that facebook is a great way to meet friends
and someone rebuttled that there are better places
to meet people, i.e in public settings. |
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what swayed my vote were the facts that facebook provides access to other students. Making it
easy to make new friends and have access to those classmates without having
to exchange phone numbers or emails. |
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I felt the Facebook Con team knew what they were talking about, and
they didn't give their personal opinions. The Con side, gave factual information like the negative impacts
it has had on college student lives'. Some listed gov't
websites statistics that were helpful in coming to a rational judgement. A fact I found interesting was : a student who posted unfavorable info. about President Bush was investigated by the secret
service. |
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Since
people can set their profiles to private so that only the people they want to
view it can see it, I think facebook isn't bad if
people use it with caution. |
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There
were hardly any posts that argued why Adelphi shouldn't participate in Facebook. Although, I thought both sides were pretty
weak. |
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I voted Con
for the facebook debate particularly because of
Brady O'Malley's argument. He brought up a very good point of,
"invasion of privacy" by which facebook
brings about whereas the pro arguments did not provide detail at all and
only wrote two sentences not even bringing up any points to grab my
attention. |
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Well since I
did some research on this topic, I found out that student athletes can
get into trouble and put on probation based on the pictures that are up on facebook of them. Yes freedom is allowed but why put
someones career in jeopardy. Are people trying
to say don't take pictures and maybe this would be prevented? If so, that is
unfair why do the athletes have to be conscious of what they're doing
while other students get to have fun? The arguement
sways more to the con side for me. |
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I
think that adelphi students should be able to
participate in facebook, becasue
i think that facebook is
a good way to get to know your classmates and other people in your school. |
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Ethics
Debate on downloading music
CON won -
arguing that downloading music should remain illegal.
Why:
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I am pro
downloading music through peer networking because people can always find
alternatives for getting music for free. Downloading music is no different
from having a friend burn a CD for you, it's all free. Lauren Bochat's argument persuaded me. |
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I was swayed to vote against making downloading music legal because this
takes money away from artists who make these songs. If someone was
given the choice whether to buy a cd or download
the song for free, they would obviously choose the free deal. It's not
fair to the artist who will lose money from a decrease in cd
sales. |
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Downloading
music for free is STEALING! there is no other way to
look at it....The way that one girl put it that it is like stealing a sweater
is very true. Musicians make music to sell...people buy music to listen
to...When you download a song off the internet the whole selling and buying
part doesnt EXIST! basically
musicians make music for people to listen to for free.. I dont
care that musicians do other things to make money they are MUSICIANS! they should be making their money off the music that they
made. And for the people who said that a lot of people do it so it should just be legal...basically your
saying a lot of people do drugs so they should just legalize drugs! I think
that it should be illegal to download music for free. |
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i believe that
steeling music rights is wrong. it is convenient and
free and even though the musicians are millionaires because of it dont give us the right to steel their music. |
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Dowlaoding music should remain illegal becasue as the arguements suggested, there are things such as copyrigth
laws. Retrieving music that a musician has made without paying them for
their vocal services is stealing. I appreciate the arguement
of showing that downloading music is stealing someone's hardwork.
It is irrelevant that the owner is rich or poor. |
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The
argument on how musicians make their livelihood on selling what they make. |
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I
voted this way because I feel that it is in fact stealing. You do not pay for
it. It isn't made to be stolen, it is made to be bought and sold. James Esopa's argument swayed my vote because he gave good
examples about the bad programs (kazzaa) and the
good services such as (I Tunes). If we need this music off the internet so
badly, why can;t we just
use the music service that is there for us instead of stealing. |
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I
liked how many of the rebuttals talked about stealing actual people's work.
Since plagarism in the school system is highly frowned
upon and one could get seriously in trouble it is basically the same thing. |
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I
think that people will always find a way to have free music on the internet
for others to download. I think it would be to hard
to stop people from downloading music. |
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its a business it is like plagarism
a paper. they do all the work to make money and you are just stealing it |
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I
voted for the con side because they were very factual and again gave out
information that was necessary to come to a rational agreement. I was swayed
to vote by the fact that there is something called
Copyright protection laws-- something I never came to really think deeply
about. I also agree with the fact that, yes, musicians are in fact millionaires,but it is their
livelihood. Basically, I came to the realization that downloading music
is illegal because not only is it wrong but because it is causing a decline
in our economy. |
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I agree with
making music downloads free , not because I do d/l
music from the internet but because of its purpose. I simply agree with the
pro's arguement because as Amber Vera said you can
get music for free anywhere, people will always find a way to d/l music. I
also agree with Matthew Billia when he states
that he doesn't understand why millionares are
complaining about their music being free. In my opinion, if it wasn't for the
people who actually listened to their music then they would never get
the fame that they have today; if artists are all for their fans then why are
they trying to take away something so useful to people who can't afford to
buy their cds. My vote goes to the pro's. |
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I
voted that con won because there were
several arguments given that I could not even prove to be wrong. For
example, Cristina Giannandrea provided a great website
of Copyright Protection Laws proving that downloading music illegal. In
addition if you look at some of the pros, such as Matthew Billia
who only wrote his opinion of only a couple of sentences and did not back it
up with facts from websites or articles therefore it did not sway me
pro-music in any way at all. |
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The
con team just kept repeating the same argument over and over--stealing is
bad. |
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downloading should remain illegal because of the work
put into a product that then gets sent around for free without any royalties
paid to the artist. it is essentially ripping off
musicians but also will never be stopped. on a
positive note due to the downloading boom CD prices have returned to
reasonable prices in relation to the 27 dollars a album before downloading
got big. |
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Music should
be able to be shared from person to person, however i
dont think that you should beable
to burn CD's from these programs. |
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My
own argument - Downloading music without paying for it is stealing.
There is no other way to look at it. It doesn't matter if its from another person (peer to peer). Musicians
make their money by selling their music Yes,
these musicians make money from other sources like advertising and
appearances, but their main income is from their music. Like Shanti said, you wouldn't go to a store and steal a
designer sweater. Well, music downloading is the same idea. Its taking something thats not
yours and something that you didn't pay for. A common response from
people who download music is that "everyone does it." Its safe to say that alot of
people DO do it and use services like www.kazaa.com or www.ares.com. However, theres also many people who don't illegally download and
actually pay for it. These people use services like ITunes. (www.Itunes.com) |
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Debate on computers in education
CON won
(barely) - Arguing that money should be spent on other areas of elementary
education instead of increasing spending for computer elementary
education. (won
at 58%)
Why:
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there are viable reasons for the increase of
spending in elementary schools and reasons for not. Since the years spent in elementary
schools are so vital to the development of the mind and body which will lay a
foundation for further education. Arguments can me made to make these
children more active in physical activities such as athletics as well as
group work with one another. I am torn between the argument
because i understand either side of the argument. |
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The
argument on saying that money is spent way to much
on one area and not on others. |
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I
believe and agree with Nicole Marino and Meghan Manders.
I think that the idea about physical education programs being funded by the
schools is definitely more important than computers. Childhood obesiity is a huge issue right now. Having healthier
foods in schools is defintely more important than
having better computers. Also, most children sit at their computer when they
are home anyway so while they are at school they should be learning to
communicate and get things done without usiing a computer . |
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Computers
are becoming a bigger part in society now and children should learn how to
use them since so many people use computers daily. |
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I
think that if you start kids early on computers it will only make them
better. Also these days everything is done on computers, it will on benifit the children. |
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Matt Gianturco - With the
addition of internet access in elementary schools the access to literature
and reseach informantion
is readily available. With computers available to students in elementary
schools course cariculums can be altered so that
learning can be used via internet. Then incorporating the computer with group
work as well as extra ciricular activities. And
with the decreasing condition of text books and out dated versions of given
books the introducion of computers will provide up
to date information so that accurate resources and ideas may be used in the
class room as well as at home. Now computers in school can also provide the
opportunity of higher learning to those who arent
fortunate enough to have a computer in their homes." In 1997 39 million
children ages 3 to 17 years used a computer at school, compared with only 25
million children who used a computer at home" |
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the
problem with america is we are to high tech. we
cant think for ourselves and if we start that at a young age sooner or later
the world will be ran by technology and we wont have to do anything |
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I
thought both sides did a good job, but the pro group did something the con
group didn't do much of: start a debate instead of just furthering it. The
con group mostly just replied to our posts instead of starting their own
threads. Also, I thought the pro group cited more evidence. |
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There should
not be an increase in technology funding in elementary schools because there
are many more important things to spend the money on. America is
battling a wide variety of health issues like suggested when argueing about obesity and diabetes as well as heart
disease. Physical education is extremely important for elementary
school children. Also, computers do not supply enough support for full
childhood development. Artistic skills and writing skills are extremely
important at this stage in life. Technology decreases the chances for
children to acquire and develop important skills. |
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I was swayed to vote against more funding for computers in elementary schools
because of the obesity epidemic. More money should be poured into
physical education programs so that children can be given the opportunity to
live healthier lives. |
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computers are important because their is alot of information on them and it can help educate
kids. it will help find information about a topic without buying expensive
books and spending hours looking for the right stuff |
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I
voted con indicating that more money should be spent on other areas of
elementary education instead of increasing spending for computer elementary
education because of Matt Gianturco's
argument. He interestingly linked a major problem in today's society,
"Obesity," to this computer issue. I thought it was very
clever to bring that point when trying to persuade the audience because
let's admit, it shows good thought was put into the assignment and proved to
be valid. |
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The issue on
lack of funding for extracircular activities really
swayed my vote. Kids are becoming couch potatoes. |
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The
argument that swayed my vote was the one by Nicole Marino. She had a good
source to back her up her argument about how scientists say
that computer generated experiences do not give children a sense of
real life. I believe that because of this media congested world, too many chidren are not learing.
Education today is too worried about
making everything visual in order to stimulate a child's mind
that it's veering traditional education methods such as reading books. |
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I voted for
Pro side (school's should increase their budget on computer's) becuase this is my debate topic. I believe
that computer's should be introduced at a younger age for the fact that
student's would get a proper hands-on experience at a much earlier age.
At a young age, they will learn all the useful applications and tools. Kid's
are like sponge's, and at a small age they would
absorb it much faster. Also, I believe that living in a
industrialized society, everything revolves around the computer, so it is
best to be on the bandwagon, then learn it later on, even if it means the
child only knows one thing about the computer. |
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My arguement was swayed by the pro's
because of Radha's statements. She said
that "even though dependence on something is bad for one's
development, living in a world where technology dominates every field,
computers is something that should to be instilled at a younger
age," I think that this is true because in today's society computers are
needed for almost everything. As the years go by computers are going to get
more and more advanced and students who do not know who to use this rising
technology might not be able to fulfill certain tasks that are demanded by
our society. Computers are basically a neccessity
and learning to use them at a young age would be helpful. |
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I think that
the Con side had very good arguements regarding
that the teacher is the most important part as well as physical education and
healthy food. Even though we live in a very technological world we still
have to teach the children to think on their own. Computers could
basically do anything for you now a days. You
don't even have to leave your house to live. I think that we should
balance the money put into schools to make a healthy balance of phyiscal activity, healthy food, computer education and
teachers to guide the children. |
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Ethics
Debate on myspace
Pro
won: Parents should restrict their teenagers from using myspace
Why:
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My
vote goes for restricting teenagers from using myspace
because the pro's arguements were strongly
convincing. I agree with David Rodrigez when he
states "Of course supporters of my space will argue that banning teens
from the website will not stop pedophiles because they will continue to
target whomever they can. In opposition to this argument, the
actual definition of a pedophile is an adult who is sexually attracted to
young people. But if supporters of my space still don't
budge, I have this to say. Young adults who are targeted will
have much more common sense when it comes to meeting people that
they talk to online. The fact is that many teenagers are very naive
and feel that they are invincible and cannot get hurt. That is why they
go and do stupid things like this without realizing the great danger they are
putting themselves into." Young kids now a days
are exposed to such things on myspace that it
affects their concentration and can harm them in many ways. I think being
restricted from this web site would give a helping hand in preventing
pedophiles from getting to young children. |
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Myspace is creepy and it is not safe for
young kids becasue you dont
really know who you are tlaking to. |
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Teenagers
should be allowed to use myspace as long as they
keep their profile private and are safe while using it. It can also help them
learn how to use the computer better. |
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I
think David Rodriguez's first post is what made choose the pro group. He
makes a good point about the need to revamp MySpace. |
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David Rodrigez argument about myspace
convinced me to be pro. Similar to what he said, I believe that myspace is a positive attribute to teenage life
because it allows not only teengers but people
in general to keep in touch with each other. I feel that myspace can also open up many opportunities for
people who are interested to get involved in career fields that
associate with myspace. |
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There
are a lot of crazy people in the world. Like some people meantioned that there are incidents on the news of people
posing as people who they really are not and then meeting up with
children. It is a Pedophiles heaven. They can go on the internet
and pose as ANYONE they want to. They can be 18 one day and then 13 the
next with out even having to leave their house and then make arrangments to meet. It is crazy that this actually
happens. Parents should regulate what their child can do on the
internet. Being a parent is hard enough with having to deal with who they are friends with or peer pressure in school,
having to worry about who your child is talking to and meeting up with from
the internet is just insane. |
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I
do think that young teens on myspace
is a negative thing. I agree with Tamara Ramsay when she said that it
is disturbing to look at a young girl in a revealing outfit, telling the
world that she is single. It is scary to me because I think about my little
cousin who is 11 years old and she knows a lot more than I ever did and it is
mainly because of the internet and such things like Myspace.
She doesnt have an account, but she is able to look
at peoples' pages becaause Myspace
let's you browse without actually haveing an
account and that is scary to me. All of the pedifiles
out there have a field day with looking at Myspace's
of young teens and it is really disturbing to even think about that. Even
though you can put a profile on private, many young teens especially girls do
not do thjat because they WANT people to see what
they look like because they are feinding for
attention and want to grow up too fast. That is why I agree that parents
should restrict young teens from using Myspace. |
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I voted for
the Pro: Parent's should restrict their children from using MySpace. Yes Myspace is fun, and the newest craze out there, but there
are much more better things out there. Many believe
that they have now learned to put up blogs of all
sorts, but that is just the beginning to learning about a computer and
its applications. I was convinced
by the arguements that stated that many teenagers
have the mentality that they will never be stalked by a pedophiler.
There are also many dangers to having this website. The fact that convinced
me was that some have even lost their job due to having a myspace
account. |
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The
argument on how myspace is allot
of fun and if you are smart you would not give your information away to
strangers. |
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I
voted pro for this debate because of Tamara Ramsay's argument. She
proved with great detail the dangers of myspace for
a teenager and proved the scare it brings among parents. Those two
things are enough to make the audience want parents restricting their
teenagers from using myspace.
However, she also brought up the good point that myspace
is open to anyone which can literally mean anyone which is HIGHLY
dangerous. |
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I was swayed to vote for restricting teenagers on myspace
because the dangers of this website are much greater than the benefits. |
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Someone
wrote about kids using myspace to make new friends
but there are many child predators out there that lure kids by telling them
they are the same age as the child. Just watch
to catch a predator |
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Amber
Vera - Teenagers
should be allowed to use myspace because it does
have a lot of good purposes that people use it for. Myspace
is a great way to keep in touch with friends from high school, junior high
school, etc. Many teenagers use Myspace to find
peers that they haven't seen or spoken to in a long time. Others also use
this website to make new friends that may have similar interests. Having many
artists on Myspace may also be a benefit for
teenagers. Knowing that upcoming artists or new albums, for example help
teenagers stay informed on new music. Using bulletins on Myspace
may also assist in alerting everyone that there is a social event going on. Many users
also use Myspace for networking purposes. Users
that are in a similar field that one may want to go into,
may help the teenager to be able to get his foot into the door of that
company. Overall, Myspace is a great tool to use to stay in touch with
friends/peers, know what music is going on, networking, and a great way to
make new friends. This site is safe because one can make their own profile as
"private" so that only "friends" could see their profile.
In my opinion, those that have their profile as "public" are just
asking for trouble. |
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i think that parents
should restrict them because people can find to much information about a
person. If a parent lets their kid go on myspace
they should secure the myspace my letting the kids friends only be able to see the myspace. |
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Mysace is a very dangerous site for
teenagers. Younger teenagers do not have common sense to know what is truly
wrong. Adults should only be able to use this site becasue
they are more mature and have more social experience other people.
Although there is privacy options on Myspace pages, children are too naive to know whether a
new friend request is from a sexual predator. Tennagers
also have a natural tendency to need more friends therfore welcoming anyone who asks to chat. Adults
are responsible for their actions, but teenagers need guidlines
from their parents therefore parents need to restrict there children from
using Myspace. I know there are always
exception to smart young adults, but this is not a way for teenagers to
express there social skills. They need to become socially active in
every day situations, not just on a computer which falsely fulfills social
needs. David Rodriguez's arguement about
sexual predators swayed my vote with his strong statement and relevant
rebuttal. |
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the use of myspace by
teenagers is appalling. the revealing of hidden
false identities and possible predators is a dangerous problem. also the revealing of teenagers ability to be stupidly
naive. |
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Parents
should get more involved becuase that blog isnt like face book it is
more of anyone can join. so more and more kids under age are going on and bad
things can come out of it |